First, let me know what you’ve been doing with yourself since your time in the NFL?
Well, I’ve had a lot of issues with concussions and head injuries. I’m retired – living here in Cincinnati.
First, any fun memories of the Steelers-Bengals rivalry?
The best story I have is that Mike Webster and I were both University of Wisconsin guys. So there was that rivalry between us – two Badgers going at it.
We knew each other and were both so competitive. Mike was a man’s center. Some centers were finesse guys and some were physical guys. Mike was a physical guy. We used to scout each other during the games we played against each other. We’d give each other pluses or minuses on every play. He’d tell me he got me on the play, but I’d tell him they still didn’t get any yards, so we’d argue over pluses and minuses every play.
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