Matt Mitten, Director of the National Sports Law Institute

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Matt Mitten, Director of the National Sports Law Institute:

First, can you tell readers how the National Sports Law Institute got started and what its mission is?

Founded in 1989, the National Sports Law Institute (NSLI) of Marquette University Law School is the first  Institute of its kind associated with an American law school. The Institute’s Mission is to be the leading national educational and research institute for the study of legal, ethical and business issues affecting amateur and professional sports from an academic and practical perspective.

The Institute sponsors local and national events including conferences and symposia for individuals in the sports industry, and disseminates information on the sports industry and sports law through its many publications, such as the Marquette Sports Law Review. As a part of Marquette University, a Catholic Jesuit University, the Institute is committed to searching for truth, discovering and sharing information, fostering professional excellence, developing leaders, and serving those in the sports industry.

The Institute is also affiliated with the Marquette University Law School Sports Law program, which provides the nation’s most comprehensive offering of sports law courses and student internships with local sports organizations as well as opportunities to become members of the Marquette Sports Law Review and National Sports Law Moot Court team. With the assistance of the Directors of the Institute, the Sports Law Program is designed to provide Marquette University Law School students with both a theoretical and practical education covering the legal regulation of amateur and professional sports industries, thereby enhancing their attractiveness to sports industry employers. Students who meet certain requirements before graduating from Marquette University Law School are also eligible to receive a Sports Law Certificate from the National Sports Law Institute.

The National Sports Law Institute is aided by its Board of Advisors. The Board of Advisors is a group of sports lawyers, sports industry executives and professionals, sports law professors and teachers, and others with a demonstrated interest in the field of sports law. The primary duties of the members of the Board of Advisors are: 1) to contribute to the advancement of knowledge regarding legal, ethical, and business issues affecting the sports industries; 2) to provide advice and guidance on matters affecting Marquette University Law School’s Sports Law Program; 3) to attend NSLI events and to participate in the governance of the NSLI; and 4) to assume other duties and responsibilities (including service on committees) that further the NSLI’s best interests.

For a listing of our Board members, see https://law.marquette.edu/national-sports-law-institute/board-advisors

How did you personally get involved with the institute and what are some of your goals for the NSLI in the upcoming years?

I’ve been the NSLI’s Director since August of 1999.

You may be surprised to know that I never took a sports law course in law school!  There was  a class when I was in law school but even though I was  a big sports fan I  didn’t take it – I thought it wasn’t something I would use in my professional career.

I became an antitrust, trademark, and commercial lawyer at a major firm in Atlanta and my first project was sports related. I had a client who was putting on an old-timers baseball game for former major league players.  I helped the company federally register its trademark.  I also did some work for a company that was considering licensing its trademark to shoulder pad manufacturer  that had some products liability concerns if it did so as well as represented  a Howard Johnsons franchisee that showed a Detroit Lions home game that was supposed to be blacked out. So, I dabbled in sports law before entering the academic world.

When I began teaching at South Texas College of Law in 1990, the Dean asked me to develop a sports law course in response to students’ interest.  While at South Texas, I  was one of the lawyers that represented Harris County, which owns the Astrodome, in litigation arising out of the Houston Oilers efforts to relocate to Nashville before the club’s lease expired. My initial sports law scholarship focused on sports medicine legal issues, including the role of the team physician and doping issues. I was there for ten years, then got a call from Marquette Law School inviting me to interview for my current position. I  had never been to  Milwaukee, but was fortunate enough to be offered the job.

Marquette Law School  offers fourteen sports law courses – more than any other school in the world. It’s one of only two U.S. law schools to offer a sports law certificate. Several of our Sports Law program alumni,  including the general counsel of the Atlanta Braves, the athletic director of the University of Miami and a number of university athletic department compliance directors, are employed in the sports industry. .

However, there are relatively few entry level sports industry jobs for young lawyers, and only a small number of graduates  are employed full-time in sports law immediately after graduation. Most of them are lawyers who represent clients in other industries, but the knowledge of numerous law (e.g., contract, antitrust, labor, and intellectual property) and  skills (e.g. , contract negotiation and drafting) they learned from Marquette’s Sports Law program  are readily transferable.

The NSLI holds a sports law conference every year – the upcoming one on October 19th  is on international and professional sports legal and business issues – covering issues like doping and corruption. The NSLI provides  a forum for discussion of current legal, business, and ethical issues impacting  the industry.  It also periodically gives its Master of the Game Award to individuals who make a significant contribution to the sports industry while doing so in an ethical manner.  This year’s recipient will be David Howman, the Director General of the World Anti-doping Agency.

The NSLI has a fifty-person Board of Advisors – including Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig who helped fund the institute and now teaches at Marquette. I’ve had the pleasure of co-teaching Professional Sports Law with Bud Selig for the past four years. He gives a series of lectures  to our students and is always well-prepared and loves teaching. He’s been in the industry forty-plus years – to hear his perspective is phenomenal.

What would you like to achieve in the next few years?

I’d like our Sports Law program to continue providing the best possible education to those aspiring to be future sports lawyers and for the NSLI, which is Marquette’s bridge to the sports industry, to continue  providing a forum for a balanced discussion of the most important legal issues affecting the sports industry.  We’re not an advocacy group – that would not be consistent with the fact we’re part of a law school –  but we are looking to make a positive difference.

You’ve been involved on a number of sports law panels and cases. What have been some of your most memorable experiences to date and what’s made them so?

The work I’ve done on sports medicine legal issues – working with the NCAA’s Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sports Committee. We monitored injury protection rates and  made recommendations to make  intercollegiate athletics safer as well as formulated the NCAA’s drug testing policy and adjudicated student-athlete appeals of positive tests. I’m privileged to be a member of  the Court of Arbitration for Sport, which resolves a wide variety of sports-related disputes, including doping and athlete eligibility issues.

One of my more interesting cases was one that happened 15 years ago in Chicago. A basketball player at Northwestern had a full scholarship ride suffered cardiac arrest while playing in a pickup game before enrolling and had to be defibrillated by paramedics.  allowed him to keep his athletic scholarship, but  wouldn’t let him play on its basketball team for health and safety reasons. He claimed his exclusion violated his rights under the Americans with Disabilities Act, and I  filed an amicus brief on behalf of two groups of sports medicine physicians advocating in favor of  the school’s position.  The United States Court of Appeals accepted our argument.

How does the rapid internationalization of the sports world affect your role and the role of sports lawyers in general? How does that complicate your roles and work?

At the college level, a lot of foreign-born athletes participate in the NCAA. We’re really the only country trying to retain the idea of “amateur” athletic competition. Most of the rest of the world has the club sport model, where young, elite athletes  are  are selected for  club teams and given economic support, which may adversely affect their eligibility to receive an athletic scholarship from a U.S. university.

With the Olympics, there are more countries in the Olympics than there are in the U.N.  I believe sports are a microcosm of society. Sports are perhaps the only thing that keeps us from killing each other – and the lessons we learn in sports can be applied to other world issues.

Professionally, sports like basketball, hockey, soccer and baseball all  have an international labor market. The United States has a significant number of players overseas, and many foreign athletes play here. And we’ll keep seeing much more of that. We discuss this in our classes.  The global market for professional players’ services in several sports raises many interesting  legal issues in areas such as labor, immigration, and taxation law.

What do you see as being some of the bigger issues facing sports leagues, legally, in the next few years, and how do you address them?

Labor relations issues have been front and center recently; for example, last year’s NHL and NBA player lockouts, and this year NHL lockout and NFL referees’ strike.  There will continuing issues of how the economic pie is divided between league clubs and the players (as well as referees).

Player health and safety issues, including sports doping,  are becoming increasingly important, along with the issue of compensating retired players who are facing  serious health issues arising out of  their playing careers.

Intellectual property issues – with new technologies and  games broadcast to different countries and all over the web: what’s in the public domain and what belongs to the league and its clubs is an important issue with different answers in different countries

What are your thoughts on the way the major sports leagues are handling concussion and related issues from a legal standpoint? Are they doing enough – why/why not?

I think they are going in the right direction. Players who have suffered a concussion must be medically cleared by a physician before resuming play. The NCAA has a new rule that if a football player’s helmet comes off, he  has to sit out a play, which enables a player to be evaluated for a head injury.  Although athletes assume the inherent risks of injury from playing a sport, including a concussion, they don’t assume enhanced risks created by a sports league’s negligence or fraudulent concealment.  The litigation brought by retired NFL players and former NCAA football players raises some interesting legal issues that will need to be resolved by courts.  It’s all about what can be proven.

We’ve seen another round of frustrating CBA negotiations in the NFL and NHL over the past couple of years. From a fan’s perspective, how do leagues allow things to get to this point and how could/should these negotiations be better addressed?

The fans’ interests are not taken into account adequately—if at all. The players unions focus on their players’ economic interests,  and the league and clubs their economic interests.  That’s the process the labor market provides. Both sides have  a legal duty to bargain in good faith, but neither side is obligated to agree to anything or to make a “fair” offer. With the exception of Major League Baseball, professional sports labor negotiations are essentially becoming  a no-holds-barred war of economic attrition.

As important as sports are to us, they are not an essential product or service like the police or fire protection, soe there’s very little direct government regulation of the sports industry. However,  sports leagues, clubs, unions, and players have to take into account how much labor strife that results in lost games that the fans will put up with. Both sides have to realize  that acrimonious, protracted labor disputes may kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

What do you say to fans that wonder how it gets to this point so often?

The current legal system breeds lockouts and strikes, because federal labor law doesn’t require either side to be objectively reasonable in labor negotiations and permits the parties to exert economic pressure through a lockout or strike as a means of achieving their respective economic demands. But ultimately, the fans collectively possess the greatest economic power by choosing how to respond labor disputes between players and league clubs.

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Jim O’Brien: Teamwork important in health care and basketball for Jennifer

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Teamwork important in health care and basketball for Jennifer

By Jim O’Brien From Pittsburgh Business Times

Jennifer Bruce Scott is proud to say she was always a good team player. This attribute served her well as one of the outstanding basketball players in the history of the University of Pittsburgh. It has served her well as a nurse the past 26 years at Allegheny General Hospital. She is the primary nurse for gastroenterologists Dr. Kofi Clark and Dr. Elie Aoun at the Allegheny Center for Digestive Health on Federal Street, just down East North Avenue from Allegheny General Hospital. She is responsible for scheduling tests and procedures and serves as a liaison between physician and patient. Her co-workers give her high marks for her competence and caring manner. There’s a positive glow about her attractive face, like the bright lights in those popular Thomas Kinkade paintings. She reflected on her dual careers in a third floor office at Federal North Medical Offices. “I’m proud of what I have accomplished, as a nurse in the health care field in Pittsburgh, and as a basketball player at Pitt,” she said. “And I still enjoy both.” There was no Women’s National Basketball Association during her student days at Pitt, so even though she gained Kodak All-America honors and set a school record by averaging 24.3 points during the 1984-85 season, she knew she was in school primarily to become a nurse.

She never considered going overseas to play pro basketball. “I went to Tennessee Tech for one year before I transferred to Pitt,” she recalled. “I got homesick. So I don’t think I would have fared well playing ball in, say, Turkey, if I got homesick in Tennessee.” She grew up in the best of homes, a supportive home, with parents and an older brother who looked after her and supported her efforts in school and on the basketball court. Her mother, Marguerite Bruce, was a physical education teacher in the Pittsburgh Public School system, at Gladstone High School, Taylor Allderdice High, Fifth Avenue High and Brashear High. Her father, Clarence, now deceased, was a clerical worker for U.S. Post Office for 40 years. He was a second baseman and teammate of “Cool Papa” Bell for the legendary Homestead Grays in 1947 and 1948, and both are depicted on a plaque at the Homestead Grays Bridge. “As a child, I’d go out in the backyard and play catch with my dad,” she recalled. “I was into swimming, basketball and softball. Swimming was actually my first love. “I went down to the park near my home and played basketball with the guys. My brother Kirk would go with me to make sure someone had my back. The guys weren’t thrilled to have me playing, at first, but after awhile I started getting picked ahead of some of the guys. That’s when you know you’ve made the grade.” A graduate of Carrick High School, she played at Pitt from 1981-1985. She scored a career total of 2,995 points (that total is in her cell phone number), grabbed 998 rebounds and blocked 203 shots. Only Lorri Johnson (1987-1991) of New Castle scored more points (2,312) in women’s basketball at Pitt. Both liked to boast that they scored more points than two All-America players in Pitt men’s basketball history, Don Hennon and Billy Knight. Pitt has retired the jerseys of Hennon and Knight, among others, but no jerseys have been retired for women’s basketball. That oversight needs to be corrected. As Jennifer Bruce, she is a

member of the Western Chapter of the Pennsylvania Sports Hall of Fame and a Varsity Letter-winner of Distinction at Pitt in recognition of her sports and nursing career successes. Her brother Kirk is an assistant athletic director for Olympic sports at Pitt, where he played for a fine basketball team in the mid- 70s, and coached the women’s basketball team for 13 years (1985- 1998). Her daughter Shayla was a starting guard and forward for four years at Pitt and is now an assistant basketball coach for the women’s team at LaSalle in Philadelphia. Her son Tyler is a freshman getting his academics in order to perform for the basketball team at Kent State. Jennifer is an assistant basketball coach for the girls’ team at Plum High School, and previously was the head coach at Gateway High School and Penn Hills High School. She has coached AAU teams through the years, currently the Pittsburgh Bruins. “Being a player is easier,” she says of her two experiences in basketball. “It’s tougher coaching, and I think part of it, for me, is that many players don’t have the same work ethic I did. But I can’t get away from the game. It allowed me to go to college for free.”

Pittsburgh sports author Jim O’Brien has a book out called “Immaculate Reflections,” the latest in his Pittsburgh Proud collection. His website is www.jimobriensportsauthor.com

 

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Jim O’Brien: Joe David directs all-star physical therapy program

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Jim O’Brien: Joe David directs all-star physical therapy program

Jim O’Brien for Pittsburgh Business Times

A familiar sports figure was seated across the desk from Joe David in his corner office at David Physical Therapy & Sports Medicine Center in Mt. Lebanon.

Dave Giusti, the National League’s relief pitcher of the year in 1971 when the Pirates won the World Series, was going over his personal rehabilitation program with Joe David.

David, at age 48, looked terrific, bright dark eyes shining, handsome in a blue and white checkered shirt under his white lab coat.  He looked professional.

Giusti is one of about twenty or so Pittsburgh sports and media personalities on the Wall of Fame at the entry of David’s complex on Castle Shannon Boulevard.  Sportscaster Myron Cope, former Steelers’ lineman Jim Sweeney, and broadcaster/comedian Jimmy Krenn all pay tribute over their signed photos to David for his rehabilitation efforts on their behalf.

“I suffered a stroke and had problems with my left side,” said the 73-year-old Giusti, “and my doctor prescribed physical therapy.  I have known Joe David since he was a kid and lived near us in Upper St. Clair.  He has a great office and staff and he’s a good coach. I told him that.  He’s a good guy and I like good guys.”

I urged Pitt’s basketball coach Roy Chipman to offer David a scholarship in 1982 when he was “a good kid.” Chipman wasn’t convinced David would be up to Big East competition.  I went to work at Pitt shortly afterward as assistant athletic director for public relations and was there when David was a two-year starting guard for the Panthers and when he was accorded Academic All-America honors.  David lettered for four seasons (1983-1986). I got to know his father, Rev. Sam David.

Sam David was a scoring star at Bridgeville High and for Doc Carlson’s Pitt basketball teams in the ‘40s.  He and his son both applied for admission to Pitt’s School of Medicine but were not accepted.  The father went on to become a chemistry teacher and basketball coach at Chartiers Valley High and later an arch priest with the St. George Orthodox Church in Oakland, and Joe went into the highly-competitive physical therapy program at Pitt.

He couldn’t be prouder of his present role as family man, head of his own physical therapy and sports medicine complex and the boys’ basketball coach at Mt. Lebanon.  He has succeeded in all respects.

“We both helped to heal people,” Joe said of his late father, “and we were doing something worthwhile with our lives.”

There’s a large framed photograph of one of David’s two WPIAL Quad A championship basketball teams at Mt. Lebanon High School.  His Lebos won WPIAL titles in 2006 and 2010 in his 12 years as coach. His 2010-2011 team made it to the PIAA finals.

David has a sports medicine staff of 15.  He’s been a physical therapist since 1988 and has had his own facility since 1994.  He obtained a doctorate in physical therapy in 2005.

His father told him that things happen for a good reason – that God has a plan for us – and that he would do well as a physical therapist.  “I think I would have been a dang good doctor, too,” said Joe David.  Yes, he said “dang.”

One of his early mentors was Dr. Freddie Fu, the director of UPMC Sports Medicine.  Dr. Fu was the physician for Pitt’s athletic programs during David’s student days and allowed David to observe him performing surgery.

There is a framed photo in David’s office showing him with legendary UCLA basketball coach John Wooden.  Joe traveled to Los Angeles three times for sit-down sessions with Coach Wooden and came away wiser for the experience.

“I’m blessed,” said Joe David.  “I think I enjoy the best of all worlds: directing this facility, being able to coach the boys’ basketball team and having time with my family.”

David moved from Upper St. Clair to Mt. Lebanon in 2010.  Two of his sons, Justin, a senior, and Jonny, a sophomore, are starters on the varsity.  His oldest son, Jeremy, is a sophomore at Virginia Tech.  His daughter, Samantha, is in seventh grade.  Their mother, Sandi, was an attractive cheerleader at Pitt during David’s playing days.   Yes, Joe David has led a charmed life.

Pittsburgh author Jim O’Brien has a new book “Immaculate Reflections.”  His website is //www.jimobriensportsauthor.com/ and his e-mail address is jimmyo64@gmail.com

 

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Sam Clancy, Pitt Basketball/NFL-USFL Defensive End

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Sam Clancy:

First, can you let readers know what you are doing now for your alma mater Pitt and how you got involved in that role?

I’m currently the varsity letter club coordinator. My job basically is to re-connect Pitt with all of the former letterwinners- both men and women – that played here. I’m also an athletic gift officer for fundraising,

What brought you back to Pitt?

I came back in 2006 to finish my degree after I was let go by the Raiders when I was coaching there. During that time I helped Coach Wannstedt as an assistant coach in the weight room.  {Athletic Director} Steve Pederson came to me afterwards and offered me this job because I was well-known in the city and because Steve thought my personality could get people to come back to the university.

What lessons and coaches did you model your coaching style after and do you want to get back into coaching?

I took something from everybody really. By defensive line coach in Cleveland was very helpful. It’s one of those things where I played thirteen years professionally and took something from everyone.

I definitely want to get back into coaching, yes.

You were a standout basketball player at Pitt at a time when the program was not as strong as it is today. What are your thoughts on the way the Pitt program has progressed over the recent years?

We played in the Eastern Eight at the time and moved to the Big East right after I left. I wish I could have played in the Big East.

Our move to the ACC is outstanding for the program. With us and Syracuse moving to the ACC, we’re definitely the number one conference in basketball.  The program under Jamie Dixon and Pederson has been going in the right direction. Now the move will help with recruitment – we can get better athletes.

We’ve always been ranked in the top ten over the past ten years. This will help us get better athletes. The only drawback is that when y0u get better athletes in many cases they leave early for the NBA. But that’s a good problem to have. 

Despite being a standout player in college, you didn’t find yourself in the NBA after your college career. What was the biggest obstacle for you in making it to the NBA?

My biggest issue was that I was an undersized power forward. I played center at Pitt and had great jumping ability and at 240 pounds, I could handle the contact. I had an average jump shot though and lied about my height (laughing). Pitt had me in their program guide at 6’7″, but I was really 6’5  3/4″. I tried to stretch my neck to look taller (laughing).

I got drafted by Phoenix in the third round and was the last guy cut that year. They had Truck Robinson who had the same body type as I did. They just couldn’t have two undersized power forwards, though they said they did like me as a player.

So, they sent me to the Continental Basketball Association and I played there for a year before it folded and that was the last time I played professional basketball.

Of course, you then found yourself being drafted by Seattle – of the NFL – without ever having played college football. How did this come about? How did you become a viable NFL prospect without ever having played college football?

I give the credit to Pitt’s football coach Jackie Sherrill. I never played for him but I did go out for Spring ball for him my senior year. Jackie always wanted me to play football – he was a great salesman and said he could make me into an All-American football player. I was an All American player in high school.  

I played Spring ball for two weeks as a backup defensive end – and in the scrimmages he’d have the second team defense line up against the first team offense. Every play seemed like it was designed to run right at me. I was involved in probably three of every five plays. Jackie said  guys like Mark May and Russ Grimm were struggling against me. So Jackie kept asking me to play, but I hurt my ankle and decided to stop and go back to basketball.

But, after the Continental Basketball League folded I got a call from Seattle. Jackie had called them and told them I would be a great camp guy. Remember, back then they had over a hundred and fifty guys in camp. Well, I was in Billings, Montana at the time. I looked around – I had nothing else to do so I said sure!

If I didn’t get that call I probably would have tried to play oversees, though it wasn’t big overseas like it is today.

Who helped mentor you most as a young player trying to find your way in the NFL – both on and off the field – and how did they do so? Any examples?

There were a couple guys. I was drafted in Seattle as a tight end. I moved to defensive line my second year when Chuck Knox became coach.  Jacob Green was my first mentor. He was an all-pro defensive lineman that could rush the passer.

I went to the USFL for two years after those two years in Seattle. I learned how to play there. The talent was not as good as it was in the NFL – it was a step lower though you did have a lot of NFL players there.

Frank Lautamer, the defensive line coach for the Maulers, was also the defensive line coach for Seattle when I was there. He helped me to pattern my game after Jacob Green’s. When I was in Cleveland Carl Hairston really helped me a lot.

Was there resentment towards you as you made a career for yourself in the NFL from those that had played football in college? Especially as you first began your football career?

There was no resentment, no. Guys were always willing to teach me. You never gave vets problems – I knew that. If you resist them, some could make your camp miserable. I roomed with the first round pick that season in Seattle so we’d get hazed sometimes-  thirty pound buckets of water dropping on us when we opened up our door – stuff like that. But that was it.

Your football success didn’t come overnight. How long did it take before you really felt like you had mastered the defensive end position and your pass-rushing technique?

It took about three years to stop making the physical mistakes. Back then, basketball players didn’t lift weights – we thought it messed up our shot (laughing). So it took those three years to develop my body and the footwork to be able to be consistent and to be able to get off blocks.

You spent a couple of years in the USFL – one with the Pittsburgh Maulers in 2004. How did the USFL differ and what was our playing experience like in Pittsburgh?

The Maulers was a great experience. I ended up having sixteen sacks that season – second in the league. After the Maulers I played for one year with Memphis and played with the greatest defensive lineman ever to play the game – Reggie White.

The USFL gave me confidence to play in the NFL.

What are some of your greatest memories – both at Pitt and as a professional football player? What makes them so?

At Pitt, I was a kid who grew up to be a young man. When I played professional ball, I was there to make a living and feed my family. I had two kids. So I always looked at it as two different paths to life that I went through.

I remember going to Cameron Field House to play Duke in ’79. They were ranked third in the country then. I had a steal near the end of the game and raced down the court, missed a jump shot, got the rebound, and made the winning basket. They had four All-Americans on that team. It was the biggest moment at Pitt up to then.

We played our hearts out. I still hear Mike Gminsky saying that I single-handedly beat Duke that game, but that’s not true. We all played our hearts out.

Making the Pro-Am team and playing for Bobby Knight in ’79 was special too. We won the gold medal then in San Juan Puerto Rico.

For football, the two AFC championship games I played in in Cleveland in ’86 and ’87. Just having the opportunity for the chance to play in the Super Bowl before losing to Elway. Those were great experiences.

I also remember beating the Steelers. Being from Pittsburgh and having had been a Steelers fan, it takes a long time to get that out of your system.

We had never beaten Pittsburgh at Three Rivers up to that point. Malone was the quarterback and Pittsburgh was down by one but driving for the winning score. They were already in field goal range when I fought through the offensive line and sacked Malone and forced a fumble that we recovered to win the game.

It was a sweet moment for me. I had relatives in the stands wearing Steelers jerseys too, some whom I gave tickets to.

Any last thoughts for readers?

Just that I was blessed to have this career. I;m not sure how many people could have done what I have done.  I was blessed – and you have to have some luck too.

It was all fun. And if I had to do it again, I’d do it the same way.

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Gustine’s view of Pittsburgh remains a positive one

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Gustine’s view of Pittsburgh remains a positive one By Jim O’Brien

Jim O’Brien  column for Pittsburgh Business Times

There is a spectacular view of downtown Pittsburgh from the offices of Frank Gustine Jr. high above his boyhood hometown of Green Tree. Standing by his desk on the seventh floor of Seven Parkway Center, Gustine can see the city skyline – from left to right – Fifth Avenue Place, PPG Place, U.S. Steel Tower One Mellon Centre and even the iconic Cathedral of Learning of the University of Pittsburgh. Directly below is one end of Green Tree and Gustine offers some stories about the neighborhood. He knows the campus well, as one of the last of the school’s three-sport stars in the late ‘60s, and, in his mind, he can still see his father’s famous restaurant on Forbes Avenue, under three of Pitt’s student dormitories, even though it’s now called Hemingway’s. Frank Gustine’s name is familiar to most Pittsburghers because Frank Gustine Sr. was an infielder for the Pittsburgh Pirates (1939-1948) and was good enough to play in three All-Star Games. Later, his father was one of the city’s most popular and respected restaurateurs from 1952 to 1982. “I learned from my father how to interact with people and how to treat them right,” said Gustine Jr. “My father said you had to be honest and have integrity.” He credits Bill Baierl, the late automobile magnate, for helping him establish his own business. When the Pirates departed Oakland in the ‘70s for Three Rivers Stadium on the North Side, Gustine’s remained a popular place for the Pitt community.

Frank Gustine Jr. parlayed his father’s name and his own success in sports at Pitt into a successful business career. When he graduated from Pitt with a bachelor’s degree in economics he did what a lot of athletes did, and sold rings and yearbooks for Balfour and Taylor Publishing for three years. Then he met and impressed Ron Puntil, a vice-president for Oliver Realty, with his engaging demeanor and conversational ease, and got into the commercial real estate business. He’s been at it ever since, except for a two-year hiatus from 2002 to 2004 when he was retired. He soon tired of that life. “I love my wife and I love my children and grandchildren,” says Gustine, “but I love to work and I love people.” So he started up another business, transitioning from The Gustine Co. to FWG Real Estate, headquartered in Seven Parkway Center on Greentree Road. His company owns seven of the eleven buildings at Parkway Center. It’s a mile and a quarter from his boyhood home, an impressive graystone manse on Greentree Road where his younger brother Bobby still lives with his wife Nancy and their six children. Frank Gustine believes the Parkway Center Mall that has closed after losing key tenants will be leveled and give way to new buildings, both commercial and residential. “It will be better,” he said. “I think he missed the challenges of the workplace and the sense of accomplishment,” says his wife, Linda, the lovely mother of their three daughters, and the grandmother of their three granddaughters and, at last, a grandson. Says Frank, “We finally got a boy in the family for me to coach.” Frank has a front-row seat at courtside for Pitt basketball games at the Petersen Events Center where he “helps coach” the Panthers and is a big booster of Jamie Dixon, the head basketball coach. Frank likes the personnel on the Pitt basketball team this year and sees improvement over last season. He remains hopeful that Paul Chryst will rebuild the Pitt football program, and feels that

Joe Jordano has done a great job with the Pitt baseball team, and Rande Stottlemyer with the wresting program. He wants them all to be winners. Standing at the window in his office, Gustine sees a Pittsburgh that is in the midst of Renaissance III, with new buildings coming up downtown, more residences and apartments in the midst of the skyscrapers, and a solid real estate market. There are the usual framed prints of Pittsburgh’s skyline and the political, business and sports icons of the past throughout the FWG Real Estate hallways and lobby. There’s a large photo that shows his father Frank Gustine Sr. with two Hall of Fame Pirates, Honus Wagner and Ralph Kiner. The son is now 65, but retains his boyish smile and his great respect for his parents. “On my father’s tombstone it says ‘HE WAS A TRUE GENTLEMAN.’ ” There was a strong competitive side to his father as well, and his boys inherited that trait. “You might knock us down, but you couldn’t step on us.” Frank Gustine Jr. first gained fame as a star athlete at Canevin High School and then lettered in baseball and football for three years at Pitt, and for his sophomore season in basketball. Freshmen were not eligible for varsity sports in those days. “I met a lot of people through sports,” he says, “and it’s been my meal-ticket ever since.”

Author Jim O’Brien has a new book called “Immaculate Reflections” about all the Pittsburgh sports teams. His website is www.jimobriensportsauthor.

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Andrew Bondarowicz, National Association of Sports Agents & Athlete Representatives

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Andrew Bondarowicz, National Association of  Sports Agents & Athlete Representatives:

First, can you let readers know about the National Association of  Sports Agents & Athlete Representatives – what inspired you to launch  the association and how you went about doing so? 

I have been formally certified as a contract advisor since 2005.  Every year, I have seen more and more grumbling within the agent  community about the players associations, regulation, player-related  issues and other concerns of my colleagues. Whenever, there is an NCAA  player scandal, it is inevitable that someone is going to blame an  unscrupulous? agent. Fans love to blame agents when their  favorite player leaves town for another team. Rarely, does anyone else  get criticized. Yet, so much of what sports agents do goes unseen. The  notion to launch NASAAR has been kicking around for several years,  almost every profession has a professional trade association to work  on of collective interest and considering how many public  agents deal with  players, payers unions, NCAA, state regulators,  colleges, etc., it only makes sense to bring agents together to  provide a unified organization to work on these issues. Prior to  getting into the player representation, I had the opportunity to work  both on staff and in leadership for several trade associations and saw  firsthand what the benefits to an industry can be and knew that is it  something the was really needed in this industry as well.

What do you think separates this association from others that cater to  sports agents? 

The problem is there no others that really serve this role for agents.  For example the Sports Lawyers Association-a great organization- is a  non-profit educational association that brings together team  officials, law professions, agents, media lawyers, etc. for discussion  on sports related issues broadly. Only a small percentage of SLA  business involves agents and agent issues. Secondly, not all agents  are lawyers. The players’ unions have the ability to certify agents  to represent players in contract negotiations, but they are not really  regulators themselves outside of the scope of their respective CBAs  and they are very careful to define their scope. They let it be known  that they represent the players, not the agents. So, NASAAR fills a  unique niche in working on behalf of agents to address issues of  collective importance with other constituencies.

Is this for all sports agents – and if so, how will you address the  variance in issues agents experience between the various sports and  pro versus collegiate levels? 

There are undoubtedly issues specific to particular sports, but there  are also a ton of issues of common importance. Issues such as state  regulation affect all agents. NCAA concerns affect many agents. The  lack of uniformity in enforcement is a concern to agents. How players  associations discipline agents and who they choose to discipline is a  concern to all agents. Sharing what works from one players association  to another can benefit everyone. For example, MLBPA is the first major  players’ association to recognize non-certified recruiters in their  regulations ? that?s something that needs to be discussed with all  players associations too. On a different note, what if college  student-athletes were allowed to have an?agent? Well, the  concept should not be that far off. A trade association is the best  place to discuss these issues and come up with the ideas and plans to  make them work.

What are some of the biggest pain points you are looking to address in  the agents community – what do you see as some of the biggest concerns  and needs agents have now in regards to their day-to-day jobs? 

State regulation is a big problem. It can cost upwards of $15,000 a  year to license nationwide, yet enforcement of the rules is very, very  haphazard. One idea is to move to a national regulatory model and  possibly a self-regulatory environment similar to parts of the  financial industry. The NCAA is in a very tricky position in dealing  with student-athlete and agent issues ? NASAAR wants to have a role  in ensuring that changes to the rules will be rationalized and have a  likelihood of success ? not just more bureaucracy. We hope to  establish a national database to track registration, issues,  complaints, etc. so that information is broadly available. For day to  day issues, it helps to network with colleagues; meet service  providers such as trainers, financial advisors, trainers, etc. to help  us service clients better. There are many areas where an organization  such as NASAAR can make a big impact.

What are some of the biggest regulatory issues on your radar right  now? 

Aligning state laws into a more consistent system is a big priority.  Rationalizing costs, requirements, paperwork, etc. is also a  short-term goal. Developing a national regulatory scheme or  self-regulatory environment is a long term goal. Improving the  consistency of enforcement at the NCAA, state, and players association  levels is another objective. Working with the NCAA, conferences and  schools to make the system better is also a key priority.

Will one of the association’s missions be to address the image some  have of the need for increased ethics and regulations in the agent  community? How accurate is that viewpoint/need, from your perspective? 

Absolutely. Agents often get a bad wrap and we have an image problem.  You always hear about unscrupulous agents but never about  unscrupulous players or unscrupulous coaches! Yet, there  is not a single agent that would be willing put themselves at risk of  a violation if it was not going to curry favor with a potential  client. For example, there are almost 900 NFLPA certified agents out  there and if a student-athlete is asking for money, someone is going  to give it to him.

Unfortunately, student-athletes do not fear losing eligibility enough  – what’s the risk forcing a player to go pro and earn  millions sooner? I think the Reggie Bush and OJ Mayo cases were  perfect examples of what’s wrong with the system. Without going into  the details of the case, USC lost millions in the process, agents was  disciplined, and the players essentially gets off making millions as  high draft picks. USC, in my eyes, had an opportunity to send a strong  message to student-athletes as well as agents. Instead, they sent the  wrong message and I think it has gotten much worse since then.

If we agree that the system is broken and needs to be fixed, we have  to address all of the pieces,  not single out the weakest link  (agents) in the process. We need to look at this the same way as  political corruption and bribery. That’s not to say that all agents  are model citizens either, but there is a lot to be done in this area.

What tools can you help develop for agents to make their jobs easier? 

There are several that have already been discussed. One is to create a  national agent registry to alleviate some of the pain points in  registering in multiple jurisdictions each with its own forms,  requirements, etc. This would also provide basis for establishing a  universal database that can be used by a variety of constituencies  including schools, the NCAA, players associations, agents, etc. It  would also be useful to players seeking out information on agents  because today it is pretty much only word of mouth. In the short term,  just reducing paperwork requirements is a big win for the industry.  There have been requests from agents to look into professional  liability coverage and/or bonding issues, which are required by  various states and players associations. Helping agents to connect is  another benefit. The gap between large and small agencies is growing  and some consolidation within the industry will be needed  NASAAR  will be a great resource for fostering dialogue within the industry.

From your perspective, what are some of the biggest misperceptions  fans have of the role of agents in sports?

The role of the agent can be extremely broad from client to client. Some clients only want the  agent to handle their player contracts. In other cases, agents are  managing almost everything for a professional player from marketing to  paying bills to training. Each client relationship is different and  can extend well beyond the contract. So, while agents help players  make decisions, it is hard to tell from the outside what the  motivations are ? is it more money? Is it to play in a certain  location or for a certain coach? Is it for family reasons? Agents have  a role in the process, but it is most often to help the player decide  the right decisions for himself. So, next time your favorite player  decides to go play for your biggest rival, give the agent a break!

What are some of the key metrics and benchmarks you find agents using to measure their performance?

Until now, the only real benchmarks are:  Who do you represent? How many players do you represent? Or how much  money have you made for your clients? They are all relatively hollow  figures because they don?t really express the overall value that an  agent brings to a client. A first round draft pick will always have a  bigger contract than a late rounder, yet the work effort to represent  that player can be drastically different. A first round pick is often  looking for different things from an agency or has different  motivations from a late rounder as well. Experience is always a useful  benchmark because you can never really negate experience, but I also  said to potential clients, It is not who I represent, but rather how  well do I represent them! The agency business is difficult to  benchmark for that reason, so metrics can be very tricky and easily  manipulated.

Much of an association/community’s value is on the ability of members  to share experiences and successes/failures. How will you foster this  in your association and at the same time ensure that confidentiality  is maintained to keep the agent-client relationship “sacrosanct? 

The agency business is extremely competitive and agents are naturally  skeptical about everyone. NASAAR’s biggest challenge is probably  getting agents to buy in initially. The good thing is that there is a  lot of work to be done. NASAAR?s initial focus will be on big  picture initiatives and some small quick hits that we can get people  to rally around. As we establish more credibility within the ranks, I  think you will see a greater openness within the organization. I  don?t see confidentiality being an issue. The funny thing about the  industry is there really are not that many secrets ? people talk and  everyone has a pretty good idea of what is going on with their rivals.  I think war stories are great teachers and you have many agents who  would be willing to share their experiences for the benefit of the  industry. After all, you continue to build your stature by gaining the  respect and admiration of your colleagues.

What equates to success for you year one? 

While I think that NASAAR will eventually become a very important  organization over time, it is important to keep things in perspective  and set attainable goals in the first year. We would like to build a  strong membership base that will provide a range of opinions and bring  a variety of experience and backgrounds to our working committees. We  would like to establish strong working relationships with the  players? associations, NCAA, and state regulators so that NASAAR  becomes a part of the discussion on key issues. I think it is  important to define the key issues and pain points within the industry  to help set a comprehensive agenda for the future. We will be  establishing an annual conference to bring members together, build  relationships, and help develop leaders within the organization. We  would like to build out a dedicated staff and stage a membership  conference. Year one will be foundational, but I can say I would be  disappointed if we did not make an impact.

Any last thoughts for readers? 

Having worked both in the trade association and agent businesses, I  think formulating NASAAR is a big challenge. It is a very  decentralized business and not the most open one. Yet, I do see a very  important role for NASAAR to play and I think we will continue to win  support as we move forward.  I have been fortunate to experience many  successes in the agency business, yet my passion has definitely  shifted to making NASAAR a reality and working for the benefit of the  industry.

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Jeffrey Dobin, Agent. Athlete Advocates

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Jeffrey Dobin, Athlete Advocates

First, can you let readers know how you and your firm got involved in sports law – was this an intended focus for you all along?

My firm was created with the purpose to provide top caliber legal services to athletes. I made the decision to pursue law school while interning for RealGM, a company that tracks player trades and transactions, and also sells proprietary salary cap software to NBA teams. 

After speaking with one of their founders who was an attorney, as well as numerous NBA general managers who had also previously practiced law, I realized a law degree would help me stand out and provide a competitive advantage in sports and business.  

You recently started Athlete Advocates what differentiates you from other agencies?

In September of 2010, Ryan Scarpa and I officially opened the doors at Athlete Advocates. However, we had been preparing for years for that moment.  Since 2007 we had been growing our industry knowledge and experience to be able to provide our clients with top caliber representation from two attorneys and agents.

What differentiates us is our unique approach and willingness to connect and interact with athletes that most agents cannot. Our attention to detail, and most importantly, personal service distinguishes our firm from “large scale” agencies.  It is this personal service and true relationships we form with players and their families that allows us to compete for top talent.

There are no off-hours at Athlete Advocates.

In addition to this level of service, Ryan’s understanding of the game provides a huge advantage for us.  The fact that he played on both sides of the ball at Hofstra University with roughly ten NFL players allows him to understand the game in a way that most agents wish they could.  His relationships with coaches, executives and athletes across the country are a big help to our company.  

Your expertise, in part, is with salary cap management from the agent’s perspective. How are you able to put that know-how to use for your client and how are you able to get on each team’s cap situation?

I pride myself on the numbers and business side of the game.  I have a firm grasp of the new CBA, and have met with team executives, and studied hundreds of contracts.

Because of the new CBA, rookie salary pool and various loopholes, contracts can become complicated. By understanding past contracts and current trends, we can predict which teams’ financial resources will be allocated for specific starting and back-up positions.  By analyzing the data we collect and speaking regularly with scouts and team personnel, we have a solid understanding of the “needs and wants” of each team. 

The database and system we have created over the years is extensive, and provides accurate estimates on many aspects of the game.  We have an accurate projection before the draft of how many athletes at each position will be drafted, and the amount of income each draft pick will earn in salary.

Your agency also gets involved with draft preparation. What are your thoughts on the concerns that there’s too much emphasis now on combine numbers versus actual on-field play and how it affects your less-heralded clients?

Just like SAT scores are a strong indicator of college success, Combine numbers offer insight on how an athlete will fair at the professional level. With that being said, Combine times and measurements only play a small role in the overall draft process. 

It is a common misconception of fans that Combine results will dictate draft results.  Most of the opinions of scouts and team personnel regarding players are already formed during the course of their college careers.  The Combine either confirms what they already know, or moves players slightly up or down in their rankings.  Of course, there is always the exception to the rule; a horrible 40 time can be the difference from being a 5th round pick to going undrafted.  With that being said, Combine statistics are important for better or worse, so we take our clients training for the combine very seriously. 

For those two to three months leading up to the combine, Athlete Advocates clients receive elite training to ensure their highest times and numbers are recorded at the Combine.

One of the biggest issues we see with today’s players is how they adjust to life after football. How do you make that a priority for your clients before they are on the verge of retirement?

Playing football only provides income for a short part of an athlete’s life.  Putting it into perspective, a player will usually live more than half of his life after retiring from the game.  We make it a priority early on to assist a client in preparing for life after football. We offer advice, set up off-season internships for clients in various fields, and coordinate their enrollment in broadcast boot camps, coaching opportunities, etc. We believe in a proactive approach and genuinely want our friends and clients to succeed in life, not just in sport.  

Do you represent any Pittsburgh athletes and have you worked with the Steelers organization?

It’s funny you ask. 

We actually don’t represent any Pittsburgh athletes but Ryan did play at Hofstra with your very own, Willie Colon.  At this past Combine Ryan and I set up meetings with dozens of individuals.  Ryan had the opportunity to speak with Coach Tomlin who is always enthusiastic and confident about life, and his team.  We are hopeful that a client will be drafted or sign as a free agent with the Steelers soon! I have always been a fan of their philosophy and winning culture! 

You also help clients with charitable endeavors. What have been some of the more unique events you’ve put on to date?

We’ve had some tremendous experiences working with athletes.  One of my favorite athletes to work with is Vince WIlfork of the New England Patriots.  His father passed away from Diabetes when he was playing football at Miami. His wife, Bianca, plays a huge role in running the foundation which raises money for Diabetes research.  While some athletes go through the motions in their charity work, Vince and Bianca are very passionate about their non-profit foundation.   

What are some of the biggest misperceptions clients have when they first start working with an agent, and how do you handle those?

Every client is different but one of the most important aspects of being an agent is setting clear goals, timelines and ALWAYS keeping in constant communication.  Some clients only want assistance in negotiating contracts and managing their football careers. Some on the other hand, need help preparing for all that life will throw at them.  Many athletes go through a series of “firsts” that they didn’t see coming. 

We try to ease the transition and help our clients become independent and self-sufficient.  We make it a point to inquire as to how involved a specific client wants us to be in their business and personal lives.  After gaining a clear understanding of their interests, we are then able to serve them zealously. 

Likewise, what are some of the biggest misperceptions fans have about agents and the work you do?

Many fans and students think being an agent is always glamorous.  Although it is and I truly enjoy every day of work, there are many aspects of the business, which are not glamorous. Just like with any job, there is a ton of work done behind the scenes. For every hour spent negotiating a contract, I spend thousands of hours on the road traveling to games, contacting teams to promote our clients, meeting with clients, scouting new clients, making phone calls and crunching numbers.  The work can be tedious and boring at times. 

However, meeting with clients and their families, helping them achieve their goals, and calling them with good news… have provided for some of the most rewarding experiences I have ever had!

What are the most frustrating – and rewarding – aspects of your job?

I might meet with ten clients but only sign a handful of them.  That can be frustrating.  To get those ten meetings I may have had to meet with 30 other people first. Family members, friends and coaches usually provide an initial layer of protection and privacy for the athlete.  To get those 30 meetings I may have had to make 100 phone calls. For every successful phone call or meeting there are dozens of rejections.  That’s part of the nature of the business. 

Ryan and I have driven five hours to meet with athletes, or flown across the country for a final interview with a potential client, only to find out upon arrival that the decision has already been made and he has signed with Agency X.  That’s not only frustrating, its expensive too. Tough times like that make it even more rewarding when things go right!

Over the last few years, many things have been bouncing our way.  Fortunately, we are prepared for each opportunity we create and each successful milestone is more rewarding than the last! In our career thus far, it is clear that to attract top talent and compete with large scale agencies, personal service and attention is key.  We therefore limit the number of players we recruit and ultimately sign, so that there is no shortfall in quality. 

In this business, reputation will follow you everywhere, and we want our clients to feel confident they are receiving representation that is second to none. 

Any last thoughts for readers?

I feel honored to have been contacted and thank Ron for taking the time to conduct this interview. I am truly blessed to have a talented, industrious and intelligent lawyer on my side in Ryan Scarpa, and am thankful each day I get to work in a field I am so passionate about. 

I encourage every person, young or old, to pursue their dreams and reach their goals. While some people are miserable going to work each day, I feel the opposite. I love what I do and appreciate our clients for believing in the Athlete Advocates team and giving us the opportunity to work on their behalf!

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Andy Simms, Co-Founder, PlayersRep Sports Management

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Andy Simms, Co-Founder, PlayersRep Sports Management

First, can you let readers know how you got started as an agent and how you helped start PlayersRep in 1997?

I was just a 22 year old 1st year law student with a few ideas really.  The long and short of it is simple – I printed up some business cards and made up a brochure for my start up sports agency.  I had no connections, potential clients, or much of a clue on what I was doing.  I was able to sign a few clients fortunately, and the rest grew from there.

What prompted you to launch your own agency and what were your biggest obstacles starting out? 

The biggest obstacles – inexperience, an industry flooded with competition, lack of money and funding for travel and business expenses.  That just names a few.  But as in any business, obstacles can be overcome.  I started on my own because that was really the only option.  It’s extremely hard to catch on with an established agent or agency – very few openings and when there are, the opportunity for growth is fairly limited.

What separates you from other agencies/agents and how do you decide on what players to take on? Are there ones you’d turn away – if so, why?

The cliché’ that a business is only as good as its clients proves true in the agent business.  Our clients ARE the business.  We have to choose wisely.  A lot of time and energy is put into studying potential prospects – both on and off the field.  We take on a limited number of clients each year which is different than most of our competitors.  We have to do a lot of scouting ourselves, studying game film, speaking with MANY people to get background on athletes.  We are looking for clients that are a great fit for PlayersRep, of which many are not.  And yes, we end up turning away clients.

You are unique in that you take on various roles with clients – from contract work, marketing opportunities, finding clients jobs, tax advice to post-career counseling, and more. What’s the part of the job you enjoy most, and why?

I can eliminate tax advice, financial advice/budgeting and most forms of post career counseling from the competition for most enjoyable part of the job.  The reality is each and every aspect of the job is important and necessary.  The enjoyment comes from the success.  And success starts with a job in the NFL for your client and a contract that pays them as well as possible.

What are the biggest misperceptions players have when entering the contract negotiation process  – especially as rookies?

The new labor deal of 2011 brought about changes for the rookies, and all of the NFL really.  The rookie contracts are more set than ever before.  There is still work to be done on the agent side, especially regarding off-season bonuses, guaranteed language in the contracts, and injury provisions.

With so much discussion on how players handle their post-NFL careers and lives and the difficulties they have in doing so at times, how do you work with your clients to ensure they have a healthy mindset entering their post-NFL years, and how do you go about doing so?

The key to success post NFL playing career is simple.  Planning.  We encourage our clients to think about and discuss with us their plans for after football.  Once we as a firm can understand their post football interests, then we can help guide them into different career paths that interest them.  The NFL and NFLPA offer various programs for business education, entrepreneurship, coaching, and broadcasting.

Planning also involves networking throughout the playing career.  NFL players meet a lot of people during their careers.  We encourage them to stay in touch and follow up with interesting people they meet along the way. No player should ever be left wondering what to do next after they play their last game.

How do you go about selecting the right marketing/endorsement opportunities for players? How do you know when the fit is right?

Our job is to know our clients.  We have to have a firm grasp of our client, his interests, and what he wants and doesn’t want to do publicly.  Once we have that, it’s about finding the right opportunities and matching those interests up with corporate America.  It’s not a science, but we try to evaluate all possibilities and stick to a plan when possible for each client.

From your perspective, what are some of the biggest misperceptions fans have of the role of agents in sports? How do you dispel those?

Our industry is littered with all kinds of people – I understand and accept that.  For myself and for the other agents at PlayersRep, we can only control how we conduct ourselves on a day to day basis.  I can’t change how our industry is perceived, but I can affect how I am perceived.  So I worry about that and nothing more.

With more and more of players’ personal lives – especially legal issues – becoming public, how do you prepare players to protect themselves from these situations and has that become a bigger part of your player preparation?

One of the main jobs of any agent is to protect your client.  We protect clients from varying forms of pitfalls and traps.  Education, knowledge and planning are the keys.  Our clients have to understand the potential for trouble that exists, and they need to know how to avoid that trouble.  We encourage our clients to communicate with us regularly, and if they are contacted by anyone, or if they are attached on social media for example, they know to contact me immediately.

Any last thoughts for readers?

Thanks for allowing me to answer some questions about the agent business.  Although the agent industry is sometimes perceived negatively, it is a very rewarding, and fun, business to be involved with.

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RIP Beano Cook: 2011 PSDB Interview with Beano Cook

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Beano Cook (September 26,  2011):

First, can you let readers know how you got started as a broadcaster and what experiences  helped you along the way?

I got into broadcasting by luck. Roone Arledge, then president of ABC Sports, hired me to be in the studio for the Scoreboard show and for any studio work for college football games starting in 1982.

My experience led me to a gain a lot of knowledge about football. It was not that I was more knowledgeable than everyone else, but enough in the opinion of Roone Arledge to get me into the studio.

Who influenced you most as you began your career?

One person was Roy McHugh, who, at the time I met him, was on the sports staff of the Pittsburgh Press. Roy later became sports editor. He taught me a lot about journalism. I never got a Master’s in Journalism, but for me, what I learned from Roy McHugh was better.  I would say hanging around and asking questions, listening to the answers, and remembering them was a great asset.

You’ve started a relatively new blog. Can you tell readers about this new endeavor and what  you look to achieve with this?

I started the Blog, www.Beano-Cook.com  in 2010. I’ve lived a long time and some of my observations, pet peeves, and opinions are what I share. For example, politicians are one of the biggest threats to the welfare of this country. If you look at Congress, it’s obvious we don’t hire the best and the brightest.

I write only one column a month. I don’t have the talent to do more than that.  

I don’t write about sports. Whether anyone reads it, I don’t know. But I hope it’s interesting. I enjoy writing it and sharing what I hope contains some truth,  a little wisdom, and a bit of humor. I look forward to continuing it.

Where else can fans follow you these days?

I’m on ESPN Radio. I do a weekly podcast with Ivan Maisel and you can find that on the internet. I have no idea how that works, but people do find it. I’m not exactly a Luddite, but I find no need for direct use of even a computer. I live in a building where you need to buzz someone in with a touchtone phone, otherwise I’d still have my old rotary phone.

You started out as a sports publicist for the University of Pittsburgh and held that role for ten  years. How was that experience for you and how has that role changed for universities now?

Let me note that now it is a very different job than when I started in 1956. Now, there’s an adversarial relationship between everybody today. It seems that way, anyway. We didn’t have talk shows to worry about, the internet, or everyone having blogs.  I shared a secretary when I first started. I sometimes had some help, but now, E.J. Borghetti, who has the job now, gets a car and has a staff bigger than Ike had for D-Day.

But there’s one huge difference: they don’t have as much fun as we did years ago. As college sports became bigger, it became less fun. People don’t have fun today in sports. They just glad to have a job and they’re glad to have the job when they get up the next morning.

This may be a surprise to some but you also  served as the Vice President for the Civic Arena  under Edward Debartolo. How did that come about and how hard is it for you now seeing the  seemingly imminent tear-down of the facility?

First, Paul Martha is the person who hired me. He got permission from Mr. DeBartolo. After a  few years, they brought in a “Money Guy” to look things over. He decided I wasn’t necessary and I was fired. I could say I was laid off or “let go” but I was fired.  I might have quit a year or two later, but after three years , I was fired. A lot of people have gotten fired, and I’m one of them.

Second, as for the Civic Arena, I don’t see a fifty-year old building as a landmark. Some say fifty years defines an antique. Well, I’m eighty – maybe I am an antique, but I wasn’t at fifty. I least I don’t think I was.

Being from Pittsburgh, you have likely paid close attention to the latest rumblings on potential Big East changes. How do you see this playing out and are these changes a positive thing for the sport – why/why not?

Number one, it was a great break for Pitt to get into the ACC. I thought the Big East had a great future in basketball, but I think Big East Football is shaky. There wasn’t that much interest in most of the games except for West Virginia, and in Cincinnati, when, in December 2009, when that team  got to go to the BCS Bowl.

 I think the Big East is always going to have problems in football. But I always think it’ll be a good basketball conference, whether it has 16 teams, 12 teams, or 8 teams.

How does the Big East football program get back to greater prominence?

I think the Big East football conference has real problems and I don’t know how they’re going to resolve them. There’s talk of taking in more teams, but I really don’t know if that’s the solution. I have my doubts.

As I said, I think Pitt was very fortunate to get into the ACC, and whoever at Pitt was responsible for that deserves to have his or her salary doubled.

What are your thoughts on the latest scandals involving payments to athletes? Do you feel  college athletes should be paid? If not, how else can these issues be avoided?

I don’t know how the issue can be avoided. I think the big difference today compared to when I was at Pitt starting in ’56, is how many of athletes, especially in football and basketball come from one-parent families and from a lot less money than athletes did 60 years ago.

Should they be paid? At one time, I did not think so.  But I think the football players- and maybe the basketball players, should get paid. Football is especially hard on you physically.

Years ago, football players got $15 a month for laundry. How much more would that be today, maybe $100? And, normal expenses have increased beyond laundry.  Look, I don’t know whether they’re going to get paid, but I don’t see anything wrong in it. At one time I was against it, but now if they get paid, I have no complaints.

What have been some of your most memorable experiences as a broadcaster?

Working for Roone Arledge and getting to know Howard Cossell. Nothing beats those two. Also, I went to ESPN when it was only seven years old. To see how it has grown since 1986 is Unbelievable – it really is.  It was chance that I went to ESPN. I was offered jobs at ESPN and CNN. I took ESPN because ESPN studios are in Bristol, CT and CNN in Atlanta.

The flight from Pittsburgh to Hartford was shorter and beat dealing with the Atlanta airport. It was pure luck that I got involved with ESPN.

What players have left some of the more lasting impressions with you, and why?

Actually there are two: Mike Ditka is my favorite Pitt football player and Don Hennon is my favorite Pitt basketball player.  They are my two favorite athletes from my ten years at Pitt. I will always be honored to have been the Sports Information Director when they were playing at Pitt. They were just great athletes, truly great competitors.

Any last thoughts for readers?

Well, I consider myself lucky. I’m not trying to be modest when I say I have average talent. That’s what I have. I got lucky: I got the Pitt job when I was twenty-four. Later Roone Arledge came into my professional life.  There are a lot of people more talented than I, but I had luck on my side, and I’m not afraid to admit it.

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Matt Rippin, Harlequins Rugby Youth Programs Coordinator

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Matt Rippin:

First, can you tell readers how you became the coordinator for the Harlequin’s youth programs and what that entails?
 
I played for the Harlequins until I was about 27. Every member of the Rugby Football Club (that’s the team itself) is expected to contribute to the Rugby Football Association. The RFA is a 501(c)(3) non-profit which owns our field and runs our Youth programs, among other things. I coached at one of our youth sites throughout my career, and after I retired, I was happy to step up my involvement with the RFA.
 
We run a touch-rugby league at four sites in the area: Hazelwood, Garfield, Braddock and Homewood-Larimer.  Our target youths are high-risk boys from 8-14, and our program runs for ten weeks in the late Spring. But we are always looking for new opportunities to expand our reach.

For instance, this Fall we’ll be participating in an after-school program in the Hill District that seeks to expose the kids to Olympic sports (which rugby will become in 2016). Our first priority at all times is mentorship. We’re not recruiting for rugby; we’re trying to teach sportsmanship and teamwork and discipline. Rugby is a great vehicle for those lessons.
 
What have been some of the bigger successes you’ve had to date with these programs?
 
Just this year one of our volunteers, who is a professor at Cal U., reconnected with two alumni of the youth program who now attend Cal. They say that without our rugby program, they never would have stayed on the path they are on. That is always one of the most satisfying aspects of the program–when you see the young men wearing college memorabilia and you feel that you played a role in helping them get there.
 
But I should mention, we’ve also attended the funerals of some of the young men that we’ve coached. We have a lot of successes, but we definitely have our faith tested as well.
 
What’s been the biggest challenge in getting people to adopt the sport early, and how can they do so?
 
They don’t see the game on TV. They want to emulate what they see. At the youth level, it’s a challenge to get them to embrace the game and not just play tag football with a rugby ball.
 
There is a lot of high school rugby out there, though. In Western PA the programs are not run through high school athletic departments–so you don’t have to attend Fox Chapel to play for Fox Chapel’s team, for instance. If you’re interested, there should be a club that’s not too far from you.
 
Football is so dominant right now in our culture, and I think it does a disservice to a lot of kids. A lot of great athletes fall through the cracks in football because they don’t quite fit the game. They’re big, but someone else is bigger; they’re fast but someone else is faster.

Rugby rewards the well-rounded athlete: every player on the field has to run, hit, carry the ball and perhaps even kick. And you can tailor your game to your particular strengths. I think I lot of kids would prefer a game like that.
 
How has the Pittsburgh area adopted the sport of rugby so far and what big inroads can/will you make to continue to grow interest?
 
Rugby is growing all over, and it’s growing in Pittsburgh. Almost every university in the area has a team. And as the high school programs in the area have grown, they have begun to match up favorably with the teams in Philadelphia. Those are marked improvements compared to a mere ten years ago.

Traditionally, rugby has been thought of as a college and private school sport. That’s beginning to change now. Everybody in American rugby is hoping that the addition of Sevens Rugby to the Olympics will help to increase visibility. NBC is also starting to carry games and tournaments.

For our part, we’re looking to expand our youth operation within the city. We hope to be in five or six neighborhoods soon. Although our primary mission is mentorship, the program is also a great opportunity to share the game with communities who haven’t yet experienced it.
 
Tell readers about this year’s team? How has it changed from the 2011 squad and what are your expectations for this season?
 
The team’s looking real good these days. It’s the nature of amateur sports that you always have to rebuild after a few years. That’s where the club was a year ago at this time. But they had a strong 2011 and have opened up 3-0 in 2012. They’re really on the upswing now. I think they have a legitimate shot at the national Sweet 16 this year.
 
Where can they see the Harlequins play, and tell readers a bit about the experience as a fan?
 
Pittsburghers might be surprised to know that this is home to one of the finest rugby facilities in the country. We play at Founder’s Field in Indiana Township, just off Rt. 910. We were one of the first clubs, and are still one of the few, who have our own home field. Most clubs still have to scrounge for time on municipal parks.
 
The game experience is great. If you associate rugby with college hooliganism, you’d be surprised how professional and family-friendly it is: dogs and kids are welcome, and of course you can always get a spot close to the action. This is not to suggest, though, that there isn’t any beer. There is beer. And rugby songs. It’s really a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon.
 
Who are some of the bigger rivals of this team?
 
The Harlequins play in Division I of the Mid-Atlantic Rugby Football Union, so our league rivals are the teams in Philadelphia and DC, plus Norfolk, Raleigh and Charlotte. Our oldest rival is Pittsburgh’s D-II club, although the nature of the rivalry has changed since we’ve moved up and out of their division. We do still play each other, though, almost every Spring, and it’s always a grudge match.
 
Who are the bigger characters on this team and what makes them so? Any examples?
 
Hmm. You could ask every Harlequin in the organization that question and get a different set of answers. I can only answer for my era. In my time I’ve seen a friend jump out of the overhead storage compartment of a bus dressed like Spiderman; I’ve had another friend walk from a party in the North Hills to his home in Shadyside via I-279; I also have three very funny stories that involve knifeplay, but I’ll keep those to myself because I don’t want you to get wrong impression.
 
The thing you need to remember is that these are also some of the smartest, most interesting people I have ever met. And they’re outstanding friends. Rugby players are stereotyped as being buffoons; nothing could be further from the truth. They’re just quirky and uniquely unpretentious.
 
I’m sure you’ve seen the issues with concussions in other sports. How is rugby dealing with the issue of concussions and the physical nature of the sport in general?
 
The rugby community has been out in front of the concussion issue. International rugby had restrictions on players returning from concussions years before the NFL started to take the issue seriously. The Harlequins are interested in taking a leadership role locally, but our plans for that are still in the embryonic stages.
 
Rugby is undeniably a violent sport, but there’s also a lot of common sense written into the rules that mitigates the danger. You can’t launch yourself at a ballcarrier the way they do in football; you can’t tackle above the shoulders; and you have to make an attempt to wrap your arms in a tackle. Most importantly, I think, is that rugby players don’t wear the body armor that American football players do. I tell everyone who will listen that the way to make football safer is to remove the hard plastic shells, which turn players into human battering rams. When your face is exposed to the violence, you learn very quickly how to hit responsibly. And when your neck and shoulders have full range of motion, you can protect yourself.
 
That said, I have seen a few gruesome injuries in my day. The risks can never be fully eliminated.
 
Do you work at all with any of the other local sports teams, and if so, how?
 
Most of our work is with the college rugby teams, with whom we seek close relationships for obvious reasons. Founder’s Field is also host to a lot of the area’s soccer and lacrosse.
 
To this point, we haven’t had any enduring relationships with the three majors sports teams–although some Steelers have been nice enough to make appearances at our Youth Tournament. The Steelers’ new concussion initiative may be an opportunity for us.
 
What do you think would surprise readers most about the sport and about the Harlequins?
 
About the sport: when most people think of rugby, they tend to focus on the contact. But it’s also one of the most grueling tests of endurance and discipline of any sport in the world. The game evolved from soccer, and like soccer it’s a long, continous-flow game played on a huge field. Only with full contact.
 
About the Harlequins: I think as soon as you arrive at Founder’s you’ll appreciate that we’re a lot more than just a social club. We have to put in a lot of extra time to run a class operation–and that’s in addition to our Youth Programs.
Any last thoughts for readers?
 
If you’re interested in anything we do–the team or the volunteer work–you’ve got to go to //www.pittsburghharlequins.org/. We also have a Facebook page. Or you could just swing by the field sometime.

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